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Roundtable Meeting 2024 09

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Volunteering Facilitator: Marc Laporte

When

Our monthly meetings are the third Thursday of each month at 14h UTC so the meeting for September is on Thursday, September 19, 2024 at 14:00:00 UTC time (click to check time zone in your location)

Recording

https://recordings.rna1.blindsidenetworks.com/citadelrock/d559965849921585c1849af03b7a51638700d979-1726753911069/presentation/

Where

What

See Roundtable Meetings for a detailed description.

Topics

First hour, quick news

  1. Element Plus Select as a replacement for the select2 feature (Merci Jacob)
    1. https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/5706
  2. Plans for next releases of 27.x, 26.x (last), 24.x, 21.x (Rodriguez)
  3. https://dev.tiki.org/Proposal-to-update-Tiki%27s-page-structure-to-improve-accessibility - Just a heads-up and request for feedback, comments, changes, etc.
  4. Status update about UAB 2024 Development (luci)
  5. Tracker Entity-Relationship diagram generation: https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/5543 (Benoit)
  6. Cypht 2.4.0 released: https://github.com/cypht-org/cypht/releases/tag/v2.4.0 (Steven)
  7. IoT

Second hour, longer topics

  1. Tiki memory and performance improvements (and upcoming disruption) - benoitg
  2. Tiki 28

Follow-Up

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Chat log

ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
0:02:00
Last official release: https://github.com/select2/select2/releases/tag/4.0.13
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
0:02:42
There was a RC of a next version in 2021: https://github.com/select2/select2/releases/tag/4.1.0-rc.0 but was never formally released
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:03:00
https://dev.tiki.org/Review-all-selectors-and-pickers#Multi-select_boxes_pillbox
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
0:03:39
Select2 replaced Chosen: https://github.com/harvesthq/chosen/releases
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:04:03
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/5706
el
Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima)
0:04:39
Will that provide same API as select2 ? because select2 was replacing all automatically expect the ones with .no-select2 class i think
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:05:33
good question Elvis
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:06:21
oops, we lost him?
el
Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima)
0:07:41
Also, element plus provide vue components, i hope that wont break existing code as well as decrease the whole performance
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:08:05
Am I being audible?
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:08:10
nope
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:08:34
Sorry guys
gu
Guest: Joel MPUNGA
0:09:52
Merci, please Share your screen
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:10:11
And we do not hear you again Merci
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:10:41
I can't hear you guys. But anyway, that was it. For more details please look at https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/5706
da
Daniel Gauthier (daniam)
0:10:41
nice to see you all. I have tyo go. Good bye
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:11:19
bb Daniel
gu
Guest: Benoit Grégoire
0:15:40
@marc can you make me a presenter?
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
0:17:55
Done
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
0:20:35
@Merci - a couple of things about select2 etc - one is the feature `jquery_select2_sortable` (sortable multiselects) - will this still work? (i hope)
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
0:21:12
The second is: This is our third library for this feature - will this one last a while do you think?
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
0:21:41
And it's currently being extensively tested! So it's already usable and getting better
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
0:22:21
Not optional?
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
0:23:47
Now I wonder: does it show trackers one does not have permission to see?
gu
Guest: Benoit Grégoire
0:24:04
No
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
0:24:17
Well done!
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:25:18
@Jonny yes, select2 is not removed, it is still working with all of its features
gu
Guest: Benoit Grégoire
0:26:24
@Jean-Marc Libs, well, it strips off any tracker where the user doesn't have tiki_p_export_tracker permission.
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:26:27
The new one is at least promising not to be abandoned in any foreseeable future
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
0:28:21
Thanks @Merci, what i meant was will `jquery_select2_sortable`be converted to work with the new one? (please ?)
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:29:12
Nope, jquery_select2_sortable works only with select2
me
Merci Jacob (mercijacob)
0:29:35
For sortability, one could choose the transfer field type.
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:30:19
is there no sortable option for element plus?
br
Bruno Kambere (kambereBr)
0:33:50
https://iot.dev4.evoludata.com/Tiki-IoT-device-management-examples
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:36:57
@Bruno: visitors do not have permission to view that page
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:37:05
Anonymous
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:38:38
Is it like sortable by dragging or sortable by some param?
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:38:54
I do not remember, sorry
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:39:58
Yeah, better try to upstream it. Thanks jonny
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:41:17
OK, see you after the break
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:56:13
It is 118 MRs if you exclude Drafts
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:56:23
117
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:56:35
I exclude
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
0:56:47
Because they are not ready if drafts
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
0:59:17
@luciash d' being ?, My understanding is that the skipnav link shouldn't be visually hidden (re your edit to the dev.t.o accessibility proposal page), just positioned offscreen unless navigated to by the keyboard.
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
0:59:37
I'll add a reference to the page.
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
1:01:07
OK, I thought it is the same case basically, meant for ScreenReaders only
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
1:02:30
Apparently, some sighted, but impaired site, users also find it useful to see the skipnav link.
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
1:02:39
site - sight
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
1:03:56
( https://www.washington.edu/accesscomputing/it-good-idea-make-skip-navigation-links-invisible)
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
1:06:57
I will try my best
lu
luciash d' being ? (luci)
1:11:15
maybe the others are just logged in the chat but not actually here ?

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