Pasted here for future reference
This is a extract from last night in #tikiwiki, it really explains what happens to code you commit. and how no-one has control of the code in CVS. This is an important lesson to learn when using Tikiwiki as a base product for clients.
| 10-24-04/23:09 | franck | Well, just to put things in perspective, I'm deploying tikimaps in 14 countries as part of a 9 Million Euro project, The project relies heavily on tikimaps working correctly |
➡️ Nice
| 10-24-04/23:10 | franck | So I have pressure from all to get things working, and your sudden change of schedules does not make me happy to say the least. |
| 10-24-04/23:10 | damian | sylvieg if you galaxia or maps, sheet, jukebox, whatever its 3 clicks to have it |
| 10-24-04/23:10 | mose | you could get help |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | franck | mose: I will start to get rude. |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | mose | from me, if it goes to momds |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | sylvieg | I have to try again mods ... |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | damian | franck thats open source software |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | mose | I'm writing a bash script right now for mods being easier even |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | sylvieg | it is my translation point that disturbs me .. I eat my own food always in French |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | * damian is doing a visualbasic interface for binbows | |
| 10-24-04/23:11 | mose | you can be rude franck that won't change anyhting |
| 10-24-04/23:12 | mose | except bringing a bad ambiance |
➡️ There is no point, you cant control the development pattern of code that is commited to the CVS. The community owns it from there and can do whatever they want with it.
| 10-24-04/23:52 | sylvieg | please ..if you can delay mods transfer before every is finished |
| 10-24-04/23:52 | damian | sylvieg did you read about using 1.9 for clients? |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | sylvieg | no where is it? |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | damian | my advice |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | damian | is dont. it will cause you far to many problems |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | damian | for all paid work I use 1.8 |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | damian | as its less likely to change |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | damian | and you have stability |
| 10-24-04/23:53 | * mose is less cautious but have few paying clients | |
| 10-24-04/23:54 | mose | my customers are poor activists |
| 10-24-04/23:54 | damian | Using 1.9 you have to be aware that no-one will care about your client |
| 10-24-04/23:54 | mose | so they don't complain too much |
| 10-24-04/23:55 | damian | that is a risk of re-using open source software |
| 10-24-04/23:55 | damian | you have no control over what happens to it |
| 10-24-04/23:55 | mose | not even damian control things, nor me, nor luis |
| 10-24-04/23:55 | mose | it's impossible technicaly |
| 10-24-04/23:55 | mose | otherwise it's not tikiwiki |
| 10-24-04/23:56 | damian | franck has no control over the contributed maps codes |
| 10-24-04/23:56 | damian | even though his is flashing a mega money around |
| 10-24-04/23:56 | sylvieg | stop to attack people .... I don't know Franck .. but I am sure he doesn't deserve it |
| 10-24-04/23:56 | mose | I'll intersect in maps code soon, I plan to do such |
| 10-24-04/23:56 | mose | for long time |
| 10-24-04/23:57 | damian | im not attacking anyone |
| 10-24-04/23:57 | damian | I just saying that even with customers giving you funds, you dont gain control |
| 10-24-04/23:57 | sylvieg | English are not some supceptible than French perhaps ... |
| 10-24-04/23:57 | sylvieg | s/some/so .. or whatever |
| 10-24-04/23:57 | mose | french are darn proud egomaniacs |
| 10-24-04/23:58 | mose | it's a known fact |
| 10-25-04/00:00 | mose | but pragmatically the maps feature is not environemental at all |
| 10-25-04/00:00 | mose | it uses execs |
| 10-25-04/00:00 | mose | it requires phpmapscript.so |
| 10-25-04/00:00 | mose | it is coded with hurry because many very good reasons |
| 10-25-04/00:00 | mose | but still in hurry, then not environementally |
| 10-25-04/00:01 | mose | some people spend a lot of time to comply to the environment |
| 10-25-04/00:01 | mose | what value their efforts ? |
| 10-25-04/00:02 | damian | maybe in simpler terms when you "cvs commit" you sign the code over to the community and you no longer have exclusive control over it. That for paid work can be fatal to some people. |
| 10-25-04/00:02 | mose | anyway that's not the issue |
| 10-25-04/00:03 | mose | many devs don't commmit, for that reason |
| 10-25-04/00:03 | mose | and they are right to be prudent |
| 10-25-04/00:04 | mose | collective development is not predicable that much |