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TikiFestVirtual2020

A global TikiFest during the pandemic travel restrictions

1.1. Introduction

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1.2. Where

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1.3. Scheduling Topics

1.3.1. Saturday, June 13th

1.3.1.1. Profiles

  • Discuss TikiProfilesTester on r.tiki.org vs Tiki Instance Tester in php (Tiki Manager).
  • Train others on how to create a profile

1.3.1.2. show2.t.o-related fixes

  • fix show2.t.o with names with special characters. Fixed by Jyhem and Jonny

1.3.1.3. Other discussions

  • Discussion: System trackers?
    • They will come down the road (Marc)
    • On Marc-Victor's plate (according to Marc)
  • Restore Quick Administration module in default Tiki creation
    Just with the "Quick Administration" part, not the "Recent Preferences" part (display=shortcuts).
    We have experimented life without it as default and it's not an improvement.

1.3.2. Sunday, June 14th

12h GMT/UTC

Topics cancelled:

1.3.2.1. Updating the Featured profiles.


Tips for quickly testing them in local (brand new) test tiki instances:

CAution: this will replace your current tiki instance by a brand new witht he profile applied
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#php console.php d:i --force; php console.php profile:apply "Personal_Blog_and_Profile_21plus"
php console.php d:i --force; php console.php profile:apply "Small_Organization_Web_Presence_21"
php console.php d:i --force; php console.php profile:apply "Collaborative_Community_21"
php console.php d:i --force; php console.php profile:apply "Company_Intranet_21"

Some general issues found:

  1. menus became bootstrap menus, therefore links in 1st level names are not clickable anymore, and need to be cloned as a 2nd level menu entry (or some other solution)
  2. no need to have modules in both columns, since the layout of the site has fixed width, and in common screens that makes central column too narrow
    • suggestion: move all side modules to just one side. Left-hand-side? Right-hand-side? (I don't mind which, I would suggest to just one of them)
    • at left-hand-side (suggested by jyhem)
  3. Show-case different bundled themes? re-use the previous ones set in 12.x or do we show some others by default with those featured profiles?
  4. quick admin module (or quick admin bar) should we enabled by default. Either in brand new tikis since 21.x (prefered option imho and according to discussion held yesterday in the meeting), or by means of adding that module in the profiles (less preffered option, imho).
    • Admin bar: We decided to add it in trunk for new tiki versions. And sugegstions were to discuss in devel list about backporting it to 21.x at some point in the future.
  5. Using FLUIDGRID instead of DIV grids


Suggestion of features enabled by default in all of them:

  1. syntax highlight: "Off but switchable" (because there is very annoying bug in mobile devices, but it's wat very handy in computers to distinguish syntax visually)


Proposals of new catgories in profiles.t.o to arrange/filter profiles:

  • "Out of the box" solutions
    • Candidates?:



Proposals of new profiles:

  • "Articles advanced" (or with a better name): using plugin list and trackers, etc. Jonny suggested and offered to work on it in a month or so from now



1.3.2.2. Discuss roadmap to have RTC back working in Tiki - PluginTogether or others

  • Rescue (please!) the PluginTogether to help us (the Tiki community during Tikifests and other events) write documents collaboratively in real time
    • Broken due to missing FLOSS server side part installed elsewhere. See bug report and comments in there:
      http://dev.tiki.org/item6160-PluginTogether-should-replace-the-url-associated-with-the-Edit-page-button-so-that-co-editors-are-automagically-offered-to-go-to-the-session-with-collaborative-edition-instead-of-the-warning-of?from=TogetherJS

      Victor Emanouilov 13 Apr 20 12:46 GMT-0000

      Unfortunately, we depend here on hub.togetherjs.com as the standard togetherjs package is using mozilla-hosted hub server. This server seems to be down now (not sure how long but it seems at least a couple of weeks). See here https://togetherjs.com/docs/#hosting-the-hub-server for more info on how to host the hub server yourself. I see 3 possible ways to go ordered by easiest to hardest to implement.

      1. Contact togetherjs team via irc or email and see what are their plans on supporting hub.togetherjs.com.

      2. Host the server yourself somewhere where you host Tiki. It is a quite simple nodejs app that needs to be run and proxy'ed by an http server. If you choose this option, I can add a togetherjs option to provide the URL to the hosted hub server inside the wiki plugin.

      3. Host the hub inside Tiki. Since we can't rely on a nodejs app in Tiki due to complex deployment issues we will hit, there is an option to rewrite the hub server in PHP and provide it as part of Tiki codebase. This will require some moderate programming effort to rewrite the nodejs app with proper PHP libs in plain PHP. This will be the cleanest solution for the long-term but require most effort now.

1.3.2.3. Endangered Features

1.3.3. Monday, June 15th

1.3.3.1. VueJs

Child pages

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When

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Who

Organisers

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  • add yourself by writing your username one line above

People confirmed

People interested

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  • add yourself by writing your username one line above

People invited

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How

How to get there, etc.

Transportation

  • None

Accomodation

  • Stay at home!

Party

Because this Tiki Fest is not a physical event and the Corona Pandemic makes it impossible for Tiki Users to meet, how about a Demo Day where Tiki'ers can show what they've done and do with Tiki?

Demo Day

  • Show what you do factually with your org. Which problem your solving
  • Perhaps you've upgraded to the latest version of Tiki or you wish to demonstrate what your doing with your Tiki version... even if it is not up to date.

Example

Let's say your using a not so recent version of Tiki or that it has long time come to the end of it's service life, the demo day can also allow users to present their Use Cases

  • Any ideas?

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Jean-Marc Libs 136
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Gary Cunningham-Lee Note about FLUIDGRID plugin added. 135
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Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist Adding on profiles improvement 134
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 133
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 132
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 131
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Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist 130
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 129
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 128
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Jean-Marc Libs 127
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 126
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) my 2 cents so far 125
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 124
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 123
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 122
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 121
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) added consistent bullet points to topics covered each day 120
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) added info about the issues with PluginTogether 119
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Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist 118
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Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist 117
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 116
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) aggregating info and aiming to keep it updated for newcomers to the page willing to read what is being done finaly, and not all the distracting info and alternatives discussed in teh past about when what, etc. (HTH) 115
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Jean-Marc Libs convene Plugin modified by editor. 114
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Xavi (as xavidp - admin) 113
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William Bliss convene Plugin modified by editor. 112
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