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Re: Yes!!! - Page Content TOC box?

posts: 30 United States

Hi Gary,

Yes!! Yes!!

That is what I wanted!! One question. Is there a way to put a line around it. (not absolutely necessary, but just a nice touch.

It not, no problem. I really like solution. ๐Ÿ˜€

I put it to work here: http://www.carrscorner.com/tiki/tiki-index.php

Thank you very much!

Best Wishes,
Stephen

posts: 30 United States

Hi,
I'm wondering what the problem is: I tried to edit my message, and I got a white screen with this message: "Invalid variable value : forumId = 4comments_maxComments=1"

I tried several times and got the same message each time. Is this a bug in the program, or am I doing something wrong?

Stephen

posts: 4664 Japan

> Hi,
> I'm wondering what the problem is: I tried to edit my message, and I got a white screen with this message: "Invalid variable value : forumId = 4comments_maxComments=1"
>
> I tried several times and got the same message each time. Is this a bug in the program, or am I doing something wrong?

You aren't doing anything wrong (except for submitting an initial post that needed editing ๐Ÿ˜‰). Editing forum posts has been broken for quite a while. My experience has been that when I clicked Edit, I got a textarea with the post for editing, but then when I submitted it, the page displayed with the old post version. If you're getting an error message, maybe that means things are changing as someone's working on the problem. ๐Ÿ˜‰

By the way, about the Page Contents box, to make it even more like your example boxes, you can also put a horizontal rule (three hyphens are the wiki syntax) on a line between the box title and the maketoc tag. I wanted to edit my post yesterday to include that bit of info, but didn't think it was worth an additional post.

-- Gary

posts: 30 United States

Edit Errors

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You aren't doing anything wrong (except for submitting an initial post that needed editing ๐Ÿ˜‰). Editing forum posts has been broken for quite a while. My experience has been that when I clicked Edit, I got a textarea with the post for editing, but then when I submitted it, the page displayed with the old post version.

Yes, I got several of these "old post" versions as I tried to post an edit. I'm glad that it's not just me. At least I know now that I shouldn't try to edit a previous message, but just post a new message instead.

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If you're getting an error message, maybe that means things are changing as someone's working on the problem. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Yes, I got this error message also, in between the "old posts".

TOC boxes like examples?

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By the way, about the Page Contents box, to make it even more like your example boxes, you can also put a horizontal rule (three hyphens are the wiki syntax) on a line between the box title and the maketoc tag. — Gary


Gary, I tried to make this TOC with a line under the "Page Contents" title. The only way I could get it to put a line under the title is when the box went the full width of the page. I tried a number of different ways and couldn't get the line under the title in the small TOC box. I'm Using Tiki 1.85, would that make a difference? Here is a sample of the 3 ways I understood how to make a TOC here:http://www.carrscorner.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Create+TOC

  1. . The top TOC, with no line around, with a grey background.
  2. . The Second TOC, with a line around, in a light background. (Like the one at the top right of this message.
  3. . The Third TOC, with a line around and a line under the "Page Contents" title. (I couldn't figure out how to make this one small like the other two above it on my above mentioned website. An example of this is also show directly under here.) Any ideas?


This is and example of the Third TOC example:

Page contents

Upgrade or Wait?

I currently am using Tiki 1.85. I have been trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to tiki 1.90. I have been talking with one of my friends (that I'm helping to set up a second Tiki website) about whether to upgrade or wait until a more stable release. I think that knowing about this inability to edit a previous message helps me to know that I should just wait for a more stable release.

Expand Edit-Window Problem

Another feature that needs fixing is the "expand editing window" in the wiki section of Tiki 1.90. Whenever I try to make the editing window larger, the buttons don't work. I hope both of these gets fixed in the newer versions.

Thanks for all of your help. It is greatly appreaciated!

Best Wishes,
Stephen

posts: 4664 Japan

Nicely formatted post, Stephen. ๐Ÿ˜Š

> Gary, I tried to make this TOC with a line under the "Page Contents" title. The only way I could get it to put a line under the title is when the box went the full width of the page. I tried a number of different ways and couldn't get the line under the title in the small TOC box. I'm Using Tiki 1.85, would that make a difference? Here is a sample of the 3 ways I understood how to make a TOC here:http://www.carrscorner.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Create+TOC

I don't have a 1.8.5 install to test with right now, so I'm not sure what the differences are in this area.

This seems to be somewhat browser-dependant. I can see a line in a div of any width, such as on this forum page . . . but I'm using Opera. I looked at your TOC example page with Internet Explorer and see that your second and third divs are stretching the width of the center column, while they have the desired size and layout with Opera. The easy answer is to get every visitor to use a browser other than IE, but that's probably expecting too much. ๐Ÿ˜‰

> #. The top TOC, with no line around, with a grey background.
> #. The Second TOC, with a line around, in a light background. (Like the one at the top right of this message.
> #. The Third TOC, with a line around and a line under the "Page Contents" title. (I couldn't figure out how to make this one small like the other two above it on my above mentioned website. An example of this is also show directly under here.) Any ideas?

If you add a "width=30%" parameter (or whatever percentage), you can keep the box on the right-hand side of the page, and the underline still appears. I checked this with IE also. Having to put maketoc on a new line under the hr tag adds unwanted vertical space between the box title and content, but is unavoidable as both tags must be at the left margin to work right. I think a custom plugin might be able to solve some of these finer points.

> !!Upgrade or Wait?
> I currently am using Tiki 1.85. I have been trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to tiki 1.90. I have been talking with one of my friends (that I'm helping to set up a second Tiki website) about whether to upgrade or wait until a more stable release. I think that knowing about this inability to edit a previous message helps me to know that I should just wait for a more stable release.

I wouldn't call 1.9.0 unstable; it has quite a few new features, and IIRC 1.8.5 had its share of quirks, too, so I guess upgrading depends on your specific needs, etc.

> !!Expand Edit-Window Problem
> Another feature that needs fixing is the "expand editing window" in the wiki section of Tiki 1.90. Whenever I try to make the editing window larger, the buttons don't work. I hope both of these gets fixed in the newer versions.

Version 1.9.1 is on the way, too, but it's not good to wish too hard for any particular feature or fix — that seems to jinx the process; it's better to accept whatever comes with zenlike tranquility. ๐Ÿ˜‰

-- Gary

posts: 30 United States

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If you add a "width=30%" parameter (or whatever percentage), you can keep the box on the right-hand side of the page, and the underline still appears.

I set the width=45% and it's looking great right now! See the TOC box here.

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Version 1.9.1 is on the way, too

Do you know when it might be released?

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..but it's not good to wish too hard for any particular feature or fix — that seems to jinx the process; it's better to accept whatever comes with zenlike tranquility. ๐Ÿ˜‰-- Gary


Sounds like good advice Gary. I need to keep reminding myself of that.
Thanks again for all the great help!

Best Wishes,
Stephen

posts: 131 Singapore

> Quote

>
If you add a "width=30%" parameter (or whatever percentage), you can keep the box on the right-hand side of the page, and the underline still appears.

> I set the width=45% and it's looking great right now! See the TOC box here.
>

Hi Stephen,
How do you do a background color in the box?? Say yellow?? Can it be done.
Been learning a lot from the day you started this post. ๐Ÿ˜€

Thanks a million,
kwow

posts: 4664 Japan

> > Quote

> >
If you add a "width=30%" parameter (or whatever percentage), you can keep the box on the right-hand side of the page, and the underline still appears.

> > I set the width=45% and it's looking great right now! See the TOC box here.
> >
>
> Hi Stephen,
> How do you do a background color in the box?? Say yellow??

  • That's what the bg=>#CCCCCC (for example) in the parentheses is for. Use any HTML colorname or hex code (the word yellow is ok, or #FFFF00).

--Gary


posts: 30 United States

Hi,
I am working on two Tiki 1.85 websites. The TOC boxes that I was creating in regards to the messages in this topic thread are working fine: have a look: Example on Website A: working TOC boxes.

However, when I try the same thing on another Tiki 1.85 website, the TOC boxes don't work. Have a look Example on Website B: TOC boxes that aren't working.

What can the problem be, and how might I get the TOC boxes on Website B to work correctly?

Thanks,
Stephen

posts: 4664 Japan

> What can the problem be, and how might I get the TOC boxes on Website B to work correctly?

It looks like the DIV plugin tag isn't being recognized at Website B. Can you double-check to make sure the same wikiplugin_div.php file is in the lib/wiki-plugins directory at that website?

-- Gary


posts: 30 United States

> > What can the problem be, and how might I get the TOC boxes on Website B to work correctly?
>
> It looks like the DIV plugin tag isn't being recognized at Website B. Can you double-check to make sure the same wikiplugin_div.php file is in the lib/wiki-plugins directory at that website?
>
> — Gary
>
>

Thanks Gary, I had a look in the lib/wiki-plugins directory and the "wikiplugin_div.php file" isn't even in the directory. So I guess that is the problem. Could the fact the this 1.85 version was installed by Fantastico have caused it to be omitted? The other website, where the TOC box works, was installed manually by the website owner.

Anyway, how would I get a copy of the "wikiplugin_div.php" file to put in that directory? But, even as I say this, yesterday I have just installed version 1.90 and might not need it anyway.

Thanks,
Stephen